Comments on: Medical Marijuana: The Bill just won’t work. http://tomneuville.com/archives/167 Serving District 25 Counties of Rice, Le Sueur, Sibley and Scott Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:59:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.3 by: rocky furnandess http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-9253 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:21:21 +0000 http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-9253 Medical marijuana. bill looks stall.A suggestion to transfer a state.Program won't be allowed, ordered the program should check in Public Safety. _________________ Rocky <a>Addiction Recovery Minnesota</a> Medical marijuana. bill looks stall.A suggestion to transfer a state.Program won’t be allowed, ordered the program should check in Public Safety.
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]]> by: Jim Benson http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-710 Wed, 16 May 2007 04:45:45 +0000 http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-710 People take drugs all the time, some abuse them, some don't. Some are perscriptions, some are over the counter, and some are illegal. Reguardless of the states decision to legalise medicinal marijuana. We all know the true gateway drug is cigarettes, followed by alchol, the "leagal" drugs. The only reason marijuana is the first of "illegal" drugs that most people try with out a prescription. It basically comes down to an indiviual choice, Am I going to use or abuse a paticular substance? Those who choose the path of abuse are going to do it reguardless of the law. At least give those who can benifit from the medicinal effects of any substance a chance to do it legally, with doctor supervison, just like any other controlled substance. There are alot of theories about why marijuana is illegal.. http://www.world-mysteries.com/marijuana1.htm is one site that I found that explains most stuff, the best way to find out the truth is to research it. If you dont beleive any part of this artical, research it for yourself. Take the time to read the artical, look up the sited sources and find the truth. As far as the law enforcement aspect of it, they are payed by the taxpayers and the state to enforce the law, so all they have to do is keep up the good work, by enforcing the laws of the state. For example if you dont have a drivers license,then you get a ticket from an officer of the law , pay a fine, ect.. The same should apply for medical marijuana cardholders.. One of the comments I read in the above artical, was confusing. The following quote "Law Enforcement would not be able to effectively enforce the law. In fact, under the bill, Police could not search, seize, arrest or charge people who have a registration card. Organizations could locate on main streets throughout Minnesota, sending a bad message to children who are tempted by drugs enough already." The only reason people think marijuana is bad and not medicine, is because they were taught to think that way. Education is key. First of all, Can people search, seize, arrest or charge a person with a doctor's perscription for motrin?, secondly if children are properly educated, it wont send a bad message. People in our country need to wake up, and use their heads. People take drugs all the time, some abuse them, some don’t. Some are perscriptions, some are over the counter, and some are illegal. Reguardless of the states decision to legalise medicinal marijuana. We all know the true gateway drug is cigarettes, followed by alchol, the “leagal” drugs. The only reason marijuana is the first of “illegal” drugs that most people try with out a prescription. It basically comes down to an indiviual choice, Am I going to use or abuse a paticular substance? Those who choose the path of abuse are going to do it reguardless of the law. At least give those who can benifit from the medicinal effects of any substance a chance to do it legally, with doctor supervison, just like any other controlled substance. There are alot of theories about why marijuana is illegal.. http://www.world-mysteries.com/marijuana1.htm is one site that I found that explains most stuff, the best way to find out the truth is to research it. If you dont beleive any part of this artical, research it for yourself. Take the time to read the artical, look up the sited sources and find the truth. As far as the law enforcement aspect of it, they are payed by the taxpayers and the state to enforce the law, so all they have to do is keep up the good work, by enforcing the laws of the state. For example if you dont have a drivers license,then you get a ticket from an officer of the law , pay a fine, ect.. The same should apply for medical marijuana cardholders.. One of the comments I read in the above artical, was confusing. The following quote “Law Enforcement would not be able to effectively enforce the law. In fact, under the bill, Police could not search, seize, arrest or charge people who have a registration card. Organizations could locate on main streets throughout Minnesota, sending a bad message to children who are tempted by drugs enough already.” The only reason people think marijuana is bad and not medicine, is because they were taught to think that way. Education is key. First of all, Can people search, seize, arrest or charge a person with a doctor’s perscription for motrin?, secondly if children are properly educated, it wont send a bad message. People in our country need to wake up, and use their heads.

]]> by: Sean Hayford O'Leary http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-304 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:24:09 +0000 http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-304 (This is a tangent from medicinal marijuana, but...) Andy, I really like what you said. I'm in high school now, so it wasn't all that long ago when I had in intensive year of D.A.R.E. curriculum (2000). At the time, I had no reason to doubt anything they told us and it wasn't until a few years after that when I started to realize that most of the stuff they taught us simply <em>wasn't true</em>. Today, I'm surrounded by a lot of kids who will try any drugs (not marijuana mind you, pot would be relatively innocent) without really knowing how it'll affect their bodies because they were never given accurate, objective drug education. Even though some of what D.A.R.E. and similar programs teach is true, it's been tossed aside with the lies as just more deceitful propaganda. It's not okay for our government to lie to us and it's not okay for our government to deny us a right if it's not be able express a reason for the denial. So on that note, Senator Neuville -- as a part of our government -- I would like you to briefly explain right here, right now why marijuana should remain illegal. (This is a tangent from medicinal marijuana, but…)

Andy,
I really like what you said. I’m in high school now, so it wasn’t all that long ago when I had in intensive year of D.A.R.E. curriculum (2000). At the time, I had no reason to doubt anything they told us and it wasn’t until a few years after that when I started to realize that most of the stuff they taught us simply wasn’t true.

Today, I’m surrounded by a lot of kids who will try any drugs (not marijuana mind you, pot would be relatively innocent) without really knowing how it’ll affect their bodies because they were never given accurate, objective drug education. Even though some of what D.A.R.E. and similar programs teach is true, it’s been tossed aside with the lies as just more deceitful propaganda. It’s not okay for our government to lie to us and it’s not okay for our government to deny us a right if it’s not be able express a reason for the denial.

So on that note, Senator Neuville — as a part of our government — I would like you to briefly explain right here, right now why marijuana should remain illegal.

]]> by: Andy Alt http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-303 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:03:02 +0000 http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-303 I think we should outlaw all prescription drugs that can be used for recreation. Also, alcohol because it causes liver disease and is abused by many people, including kids who have easy access to it by way of their parents keeping it in the house. What I mean to say is, we should outlaw all those if Medical Marijuana is to remain illegal. A link to murder and marijuana, Chuck (see Chuck's comment above)? Is that worse than vehicular manslaughter or other alcohol-related fatalities? Any cases of murder by people who are on alcohol, or people who aren't "on" anything at all? I'd like to hear the open and honest truth; why is legalizing marijuana so controversial? There's plenty of ways for people to hurt themselves or abuse legal drugs and alcohol. I don't believe pot is a gateway drug, it just seems that way because no one is going to first do meth, acid, cocaine, and then say, "I think I'd like to try some pot now, and see what that's like." If it's part of a person's personality to take such risks as getting into drugs, going from cigarettes to pot then to the hard stuff is the common route. On the other hand, if that type of risk-taking isn't part of a person's character, they won't go that far. Children are not as naive today as they were in my generation, and the best way to regain credibility is for the adults to set an example, and to be honest. Tell a child alcohol is bad, but they can see at least multiple pubs in most towns as they walk down a street, alcohol in a kitchen cupboard, in movies, in a liquor cabinet, or cigarettes at every convenience store. If adults want to be credible with kids and send the right message, we may actually have to set an example and not mixed messages. Again, I ask, why is Medical Marijuana so controversial? I think we should outlaw all prescription drugs that can be used for recreation. Also, alcohol because it causes liver disease and is abused by many people, including kids who have easy access to it by way of their parents keeping it in the house.

What I mean to say is, we should outlaw all those if Medical Marijuana is to remain illegal. A link to murder and marijuana, Chuck (see Chuck’s comment above)? Is that worse than vehicular manslaughter or other alcohol-related fatalities? Any cases of murder by people who are on alcohol, or people who aren’t “on” anything at all?

I’d like to hear the open and honest truth; why is legalizing marijuana so controversial? There’s plenty of ways for people to hurt themselves or abuse legal drugs and alcohol. I don’t believe pot is a gateway drug, it just seems that way because no one is going to first do meth, acid, cocaine, and then say, “I think I’d like to try some pot now, and see what that’s like.” If it’s part of a person’s personality to take such risks as getting into drugs, going from cigarettes to pot then to the hard stuff is the common route. On the other hand, if that type of risk-taking isn’t part of a person’s character, they won’t go that far. Children are not as naive today as they were in my generation, and the best way to regain credibility is for the adults to set an example, and to be honest. Tell a child alcohol is bad, but they can see at least multiple pubs in most towns as they walk down a street, alcohol in a kitchen cupboard, in movies, in a liquor cabinet, or cigarettes at every convenience store. If adults want to be credible with kids and send the right message, we may actually have to set an example and not mixed messages. Again, I ask, why is Medical Marijuana so controversial?

]]> by: and money » Blog Archive » Medical Marijuana: The Bill just won’t work. http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-298 Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:21:55 +0000 http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-298 [...] Loretta Nall wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptBut, the bill is written so loosely, that it would allow thousands of people to become “registered non-profit organizations”, which are allowed to grow up to 12 marijuana plants per “patient” they have signed up. &#8230; [...] […] Loretta Nall wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptBut, the bill is written so loosely, that it would allow thousands of people to become “registered non-profit organizations”, which are allowed to grow up to 12 marijuana plants per “patient” they have signed up. … […]

]]> by: Adam Gurno http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-297 Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:11:09 +0000 http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-297 Also note that you *can* eat marijuana by cooking it into baked goods, for those who do not wish to smoke it. The only differences between smoked and edible MM are: 1. Quick relief - unlike pain pills one can find relief from pain and discomfort within minutes of smoking rather than the 15-45 for eating 2. Nauseated patients - For people who cannot keep anything down. A smoked product cannot be vomited back up. Also note that you *can* eat marijuana by cooking it into baked goods, for those who do not wish to smoke it.

The only differences between smoked and edible MM are:
1. Quick relief - unlike pain pills one can find relief from pain and discomfort within minutes of smoking rather than the 15-45 for eating
2. Nauseated patients - For people who cannot keep anything down. A smoked product cannot be vomited back up.

]]> by: Sean Hayford O'Leary http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-296 Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:03:11 +0000 http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-296 Chuck, it's not surprising that smoking marijuana could cause lung cancer -- though the studies may disagree -- you are <em>smoking</em> it, after all. To me, though, a slight risk of hurting yourself isn't significant enough to justify having something outlawed; should we outlaw red meat because it increases your risk of heart disease? We're a country founded on libertarian ideals and unless marijuana poses a significant risk to others, it shouldn't be illegal -- especially in extraordinary situations like those with cancer patients. Chuck, it’s not surprising that smoking marijuana could cause lung cancer — though the studies may disagree — you are smoking it, after all. To me, though, a slight risk of hurting yourself isn’t significant enough to justify having something outlawed; should we outlaw red meat because it increases your risk of heart disease?

We’re a country founded on libertarian ideals and unless marijuana poses a significant risk to others, it shouldn’t be illegal — especially in extraordinary situations like those with cancer patients.

]]> by: Chuck Darrell http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-269 Fri, 13 Apr 2007 17:07:39 +0000 http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-269 Marijuana is harmful to Minnesotan's Two recent cases linking marijuana to murder in Minnesota. Follow link and scroll down. http://mnfamilycouncil.blogspot.com/2007/03/dfl-rep-larry-hosch-enables-pot-bill-to.html Marijuana linked to dragging of police officer and death of driver. http://mnfamilycouncil.blogspot.com/2007/04/more-marijuana-related-death-and-mayhem.html Marijuana is harmful to Minnesotan’s

Two recent cases linking marijuana to murder in Minnesota. Follow link and scroll down.

http://mnfamilycouncil.blogspot.com/2007/03/dfl-rep-larry-hosch-enables-pot-bill-to.html

Marijuana linked to dragging of police officer and death of driver.

http://mnfamilycouncil.blogspot.com/2007/04/more-marijuana-related-death-and-mayhem.html

]]> by: Chuck Darrell http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-267 Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:47:39 +0000 http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-267 New study shows pot linked to lung cancer. http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204&#38;objectid=10431024 New study shows pot linked to lung cancer.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=204&objectid=10431024

]]> by: adam gurno http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-266 Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:31:02 +0000 http://tomneuville.com/archives/167#comment-266 Might I point out that you don't have to smoke marijuana. You can easily cook it into baked goods or capsule form. Those suffering from nausea often smoke it simply due to the fact that they cannot 'keep anything down'. You cannot vomit up smoke. Also their carcinogen factoid is incorrect. Consider <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html" rel="nofollow">Washington Post article</a> which shows no connection between marijuana and lung cancer. (It may show a *negative* connection, but that wasn't being investigated. Negative connection == *less* lung cancer than *not smoking at all*.) Might I point out that you don’t have to smoke marijuana. You can easily cook it into baked goods or capsule form.

Those suffering from nausea often smoke it simply due to the fact that they cannot ‘keep anything down’. You cannot vomit up smoke.

Also their carcinogen factoid is incorrect. Consider Washington Post article which shows no connection between marijuana and lung cancer. (It may show a *negative* connection, but that wasn’t being investigated. Negative connection == *less* lung cancer than *not smoking at all*.)

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